I will be visiting Munich Dec 27-Jan 2. I would like to take the train to see Neuschwanstein. I looked at the timetable and since I want to use the Bayern ticket (24 Euro for 2 people), I must use the local trains.
I found a schedule that should work fine but I wanted to know what the website means when it says %26quot;Departure/Arrival replaced by an equivalent station.%26quot; The station it lists is München Hbf Gl.27-36.
Can someone tell me what this means?
Also, where do you buy the Bayern ticket? We will be staying very close to the Hauptbanhof. Is this where I need to go or somewhere else? Thank you so very much!
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We just did this 2 weeks ago.
Hbf refers to the central train station, Hauptbahnhof. I believe GI refers to the platform numbers, so the train will leave from a platform # between 27-36. The exact platform will be posted about 20 min before the train leaves. It is my understanding that all the trains from Munich to Fussen are local trains, so you can take any train.
You can get the Bayern ticket from a machine at the main train station. There is an english option to use the machine. You can get the ticket from the counter, but have to pay 2e more and wait in line. It is very easy to use the machine. Also the Bayern ticket works for the buses in Fussen, that take you to the castles. They time the bus with the arrival of the train.
I would suggest getting one of the first trains leaving for Fussen because it gets dark early, especially if you want to see both castles. Plus we had to wait in a long line for the horse carraige up to the castle, (couldn%26#39;t walk because of freezing rain, too slippery).
I am sure if I have any of this incorrect, the experts will correct me.
Don%26#39;t sweat it, it is easy to do. Our conceirge at the Hilton told us that it was to confusing to take the train, but he was dead wrong, (I think he gets commision from the tour company). Super easy and much nicer than being stuck on a bus. If the weather is nice, it is a beautiful ride on the train as well.
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You can buy the Bayern Ticket from a machine [24 €]or agent [26 €] at the Hauptbahnhof ReiseZentrum [travel center].
München Hbf Gl.27-36 means Munich Hauptbahnhof Gleis [track/platform] 27 to 36. The train will depart from track #27 to #36 and you will need to check the overhead departure board to find out which one. Tracks 27 to 36 are at the far north end of the station.
The MVV website used to have a downloadable PDF map of the Hauptbahnhof but they are revising the website and the map is currently not available. mvv-muenchen.de/en/…index.html
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Thank you so much for your help!!
I do have one quick question though.. you said to take the earliest train so we can see both castles before it gets dark.
I thought I had read somewhere that the Bayern ticket was only valid on weekdays after 9am. Did you mean the earliest train after 9am? Just checking--thanks!
Also, do you have to have a ticket to go up the hill to the castle? We heard that you only get to see 7 rooms so we were thinking of just seeing the outside but didn%26#39;t know if you have to have a ticket or not to get up the hill. Thanks!
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Anybody can walk up the hill to the outside of Neuschwanstein Castle. Make sure to go up to the bridge for a nice view of it. At the ticket office in the village you can buy tickets to tour both Neuschwanstein Castle and Hohenschwangau Castle where the family actually lived. The tickets are given for certain times and for different languages, so you end up with something like a 10AM English language tour of Neuschwanstein, and if you also want to see Hohenschwangau, say a 2PM English tour of it.
I really don%26#39;t understand people wanting to make a day trip of it from Munich. It%26#39;s much nicer to stay in the Villa Jaegerhaus Hotel in Hohenschwangau with its lovely views of the castles which are lit up most of the night and its excellent restaurant. I find Neuschwanstein most delightful in the snow, and the sight of it is best savored over hours. The musical in nearby Fuessen is excellent also.
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You can walk up the %26quot;hill%26quot; without a ticket. And in my opinion the exterior is far moe impressive than the disappointing inside. So this is not the worst option. Don%26#39;t miss the %26quot;Marienbruecke%26quot; near the castle that leads over a deep gorge with a river.
Munich Central is %26quot;devided%26quot; in 3 parts:
- The %26quot;HBF%26quot; of %26quot;Hbf Haupthalle%26quot; (Main Hall%26quot; refers to tracks 11-26
- The %26quot;Holzkichner Bahnhof%26quot; is added at the suoth west end and uses tracks 5-10
-The %26quot;Starnberger Bahnhof%26quot; is located at the North west End and uses tracks 27-36.
The walking distance fron the Main Hall to Starnberger or Holzkirchner Bf is approx 5-10 minutes.
However all is called Munich Hbf.
The Names come from the old destinations of trains leaving from the parts of the station:
- from %26quot;Holzkirchner Bahnhof%26quot; to Holzkirchen and further
-From %26quot;Starnberger Bf%26quot; to Starnberg (Lake Starnberg%26quot; and further.
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Yes you are right about the 9am restriction during the week. We went on a Saturday, so we could use an earlier train.
I would recommend doing the interior tour. We were a group of 12 and most of the men did not want to go. The weather was awful, had to all buy ponchos to keep our winter coats dry. One guy kept saying %26quot;This better be worth it%26quot;. Well half way through the tour he agreed it was worth it. The views alone from inside the castle made the tour worth it. We have done many castles thru Europe. This one is neat because it is so different. Mad Ludwig of course. I found Chiemsee to be more educational and the museum was interesting, but Neuschwanstein is unique. If you take the time to go there you might as well go in.
I agree with a previous post about staying over night. That would be nice if one has the time, but most do not.
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%26gt; Bayern ticket (24 Euro for 2 people)
EUR 25 since 11.12.2005
%26gt; I must use the local trains.
Yes - but there are anyway no others on this route.
%26gt; %26quot;Departure/Arrival replaced by an equivalent station.%26quot;
At seybothph already explained Munich Hbf is divided in (building) subparts. The message is just that you are aware of this.
tracks 1-4 the underground S-Bahn station
tracks 5-10 the south wing
tracks 11-26 the main hall
tracks 27-36 the north wing
The most tracks in a railway station in Europe. But there are railway stations which have more tracks in their (one and only) main hall.
railway station map
bahnhof.de/site/…bahnhofsplan__muenchen.pdf
You can reach the tracks 27-36 in the north wing via platform 26. Or one of direct entrances from Arnulfstraße.
%26gt; Also, where do you buy the Bayern ticket?
Ticket machine. Counter is EUR 2,00 more expensive. The red/grey ones with touchscreen accept also credit cards.
%26gt; close to the Hauptbahnhof
Nice. The Bavaria Ticket covers however all local public transport in Bavaria. I.e. also the U-Bahn, trams and buses in Munich.
And the bus from Füssen to Hohenschwangau.
%26gt; earliest train so we can see both castles before it gets dark.
at 04:47? This is not really necessary.
%26gt; was only valid on weekdays after 9am.
yes
%26gt; Did you mean the earliest train after 9am?
Would be OK in my view. There is also a nice connection at Munich Hbf dep 08:52
If you want to use this connection you need to buy normal tickets to Geltendorf (the first stop past 9am) which are EUR 6,60 pp and use the Bavaria Ticket for the rest of the journey.
%26gt; Also, do you have to have a ticket to go up the hill to the castle?
No.
http://www.hohenschwangau.de/553.0.html
See this page for transport possiblities and walking times to the castle.
If you want to visit (only possible with a tour) the castle you can order your ticket in advance for a desired tour time.
http://www.hohenschwangau.de/546.0.html
This has the advantage that you - if arriving not early in Hohenschwangau - don%26#39;t risk that on your arrival the next tours are already sold out. But keep in mind that you have to collect the tickets at least one hour before the tour starts at the Hohenschwangau ticket booth.
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